benrenyi4 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) 5:10 I ask what this formula is dark blue http://youtu.be/aUidMWGJZEY?t=5m10s Edited February 28, 2015 by benrenyi4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregh Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 It's really hard to guess. Most companies keep their exact formula a secret. However, this thread would be a great place to start reading about some of the more popular blues: http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/4931-lactose-blue-or-conkling-blue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benrenyi4 Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 It's really hard to guess. Most companies keep their exact formula a secret. However, this thread would be a great place to start reading about some of the more popular blues: http://www.amateurpyro.com/forums/topic/4931-lactose-blue-or-conkling-blue/Video no formula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enanthate Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I agree it's a nice blue. Looks like hexamine blue to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livingston Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 My guess and I'm no chemistry or master in pyro but maybe there adding more blue coloring agent then most formulas. Or more oxidizer. I dunno your going to have to experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcorso85 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 copper benzoate is what's used for this blue. ...well copper benzoate will give you this kind of blue. I read an article in one of the AFN's about it.... and a year or two ago had a discussion about how to make copper benzoate from the article. Mumbles explained it pretty well.... its on here somewhere. I'm sure you can find that and the AFN article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYRONEEZEKIEL Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Interesting video. Unbelievable fireworks. I find the blues at 1:11 far more appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblivionFall Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) You assume that the camera records colours perfectly? Most likely the camera. Edit: maybe the stars are really that blue, canada fireworks shows are terrible compared to this. Edited August 9, 2015 by OblivionFall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean411 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Unfortunately we may never know the exact formula as the bruscella factory exploded last month and most of the builders were killed,I think the blue at 1:11 and 5:10 are the same blue there are just way more stars in the shells at 1:11. Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean411 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 And they are far more likely a chlorate blue than an AP blue, chlorate is far less expensive in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogeryermaw Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 as it was explained to me when i started out, pick a nice blue and run with it. if you get hung up over blue firework stars, you will be stuck there forever. it is stupid easy to get lost in the plethora of blue comps out there without ever finding one that meets your needs. i have also found (as well as having been told) if you're lighting them on the ground, you haven't seen the star. they need to be in the air. there is a multi tube fountain out there called purple passion that has those intense deep blue microstars. i liked it enough that i bought 20 of them. after taking one apart to test the blue stars, i found that on the ground, they were washed out and whitish but in their intended usage they gave that intense, incredible, cool burning blue. but that was my mistake too. i got into the hobby looking for a better "blue fix". i soon found that it is a descent into madness trying to find that ultimate blue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcorso85 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Found it Phiko KP Blue Potassium Perchlorate 63 Parlon 14 Copper (II) Oxide 13 Red Gum 10 http://pyrodata.com/compositions/Pihko-KP-Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldspark Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Now there's a blue I could be happy with forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYRONEEZEKIEL Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Pihko KP #2 is the absolute best blue. Substitute Parlon for saran. Parlon leaves a little tail and doesn't burn as clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrojig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Bcorsco :I too have found copper oxide to be a very nice blue colorant . I recently tried the copper(lll) red oxide , and to my surprise it seemed to have a bit deeper blue than that of the black oxide. The comp was similar to the one described above , but I think I bound with dex. Its funny but I too can relate to the quest for the perfect blue. I found that shifting the spectrum to the purple side helped get the vibrant blue I was after , and not the washed out blues I was getting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Pyrojig, you're not the first person I've heard mention the purple thing. I wonder if including a little bit of strontium might help with some formulas. This is a strange thought since a red halo around a blue star (too much oxygen) has usually been considered to be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcorso85 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Blue is a funny color. Its believe there is know perfect blue, just what is perfect for you. For me, it's about pairing blue with something. A silver or a gold.I love cop light blues against a gold star, but a deep blue agains a bright silver.I am alittle partial to cop light blue, using copper benzoate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningRNX Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The "dark blue" from above could be anything from organic to metallic. it could be the smoke reflecting the deep blue and hiding the white spotdistance plays a role too, I have seen metalized blue in mines being too bright to capture on camera but appearing relatively deep when light up from a big shell. A tip: don't look directly into the burning star, the beauty is outside of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I always try to look at reflected light. Tacking a piece of paper up on something gives a fairly accurate representation of what you observe from the air in my experience. It doesn't show halos, ash or tails, but it's not bad for a quick color test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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