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#1 redbullzuiper

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Posted 18 October 2021 - 05:47 AM

Today I opened a small container containing KClO4, it was closed for about 1 year. When pulling the lit a very distinctive smell of what I think was ammonia came from it. It stung my nose.

Anyone knows the causes of this? Is that normal and can I still use it?

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Posted 18 October 2021 - 01:21 PM

I have never heard of this before. I'm curious to know if anyone else has experienced what you have..



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Posted 18 October 2021 - 10:29 PM

Today I opened a small container containing KClO4, it was closed for about 1 year. When pulling the lit a very distinctive smell of what I think was ammonia came from it. It stung my nose.

Anyone knows the causes of this? Is that normal and can I still use it?

Are you sure that this is potassium perchlorate?
Its could be ammonium perchlorate
Or if you sure about that its could be make from AP
AP+potassium salt----->KP(solid)+ammonium salt
and little ammonium that stay on there can make ammonia smell
If you are not sure about AP and KP make a solution
KP is very low solubility and AP is soluble



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Posted 19 October 2021 - 12:51 AM

Yes I am sure its no AP. I dont possess AP. Maybe it has been made from AP I will ask the guy who I bought it from.

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 05:42 AM

I don't see how ammonia can even be created, there's no nitrogen in perchlorate.

 

Could be the offgasing of the plastic container that smells like ammonia perhaps.



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Posted 20 October 2021 - 09:51 AM

I got an ammonia smell when I milled potassium perchlorate or potassium nitrate in a rubber mill jar, or a mill jar with a rubber gasket. After I aired it out the smell didn't come back.



#7 redbullzuiper

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 12:02 PM

Oh, that might be the same as I have then. It was milled kp from a rubber jar.




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