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#21 dynomike1

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 04:06 PM

Ok thanks NJ.


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Posted 25 December 2016 - 04:47 PM

I guess I'll have to pry my wallet open and order some NaNO3 and some more silica gel. I've got to try this glitter.

I may try using the same comp as a delay in my rocket rather than my usual Win 39J.


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Posted 25 December 2016 - 04:50 PM

OM, try Lloyd's popcorn with coarse MgAl instead of fine AL. It looks identical and works for rocket delays.

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 04:54 PM

Yeah, I like that idea better because I can store my rockets longer without that hygroscopic delay in there.


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Posted 26 December 2016 - 12:05 PM

I wonder what that star would look like in a shell of shells?


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 12:21 PM

I love coarse mgal in glitters. I have a favorite formula, but not a very representative video. For what it's worth, this would probably make a pretty nice white or silver glitter with potassium nitrate.
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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:53 PM

I am looking for a white or silver glitter with a tail.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:37 PM

Doesn't anyone find it kinda strange that this tiger tail composition, subbed with NaNO3, now suddenly turns into a glitter?

I added quite some metals to tiger tail, mostly titanium and aluminium, but never got this effect.

 

Quite interesting that coarse MgAl gives these properties.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 07:34 PM

Doesn't anyone find it kinda strange that this tiger tail composition, subbed with NaNO3, now suddenly turns into a glitter?

I added quite some metals to tiger tail, mostly titanium and aluminium, but never got this effect.

 

Quite interesting that coarse MgAl gives these properties.

 

I don't know if I would consider this a true glitter in the sense that Winokur, Oglesby, and Shimizu tend to describe it.  Though the actual glitter phenomenon is not entirely understood.  I'd consider it more closely related to a brocade, but that's just me.  Try adding coarse MgAl to tiger tail and you'll see this same effect. There's nothing special about the sodium nitrate.  It may resemble a glitter, but it's probably better described as a streamer with delayed ignition of coarse MgAl, which appears to glitter or flash on it's own to some extent.  Titanium and coarse flake Al can show this same effect.  Check out some of the brocade type formulas and you can find the same effect.  I played around developing brocades for a while only to basically reinvent a variant of Chrysanthemum 8 + Ti and Al, and it gives a similar, very pronounced white version of this effect.  Coarse components like charcoal or kinda poorly ground oxidizer can really enhance this phenomenon for some reason.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 09:26 PM

I've been looking on PF and elsewhere and have found several glitter comps varying only from charcoal comps by the inclusion of sodium either in nitrate or oxalate form.
I don't know what works best but I like that glitter.
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:22 PM

Pirotex, your sodium nitrate glitter is getting a lot of attention online, congratulations! I remember your sweet dreams rocket, also sodium nitrate-based. Could you tell us how you prime the stars? Many of us wonder how you deal with the hygroscopic nature of sodium nitrate. Any detail on that would be grateful received- and thanks.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:11 PM

DavidF, I don't use prime for that glitter.

For sunrise yellow 75/15/10 +5% magnalum + 5% dextrin


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:39 AM

OM, I saw you mention buying more silica gel.

FYI you can buy it from craft stores in 4 or 5 lb bags with indicator that is used to dry flowers. If you go to Michael's they basically always have a 40% off one item and I think Hobby Lobby has similar or will accept Michael's coupon. I think it's about $12 before any discount last time I bought some.
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