Milyan720 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I need ascorbic acid for some golden powder that I want to make, I have some 500 vitamin c tablets. Each tablet has 300 mg of ascorbic acid and 200mg of sodium ascorbate, the total weight of the tablet ranges from 1.00 - 1.08 grams. How would I extract it. If the process is too expensive then is there a way to synthesise it. ..... I'm a noob and this topic may be rubbish to some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedinger Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 ..... I'm a noob and this topic may be rubbish to some peopleWell there you are right! 1. What ndo you want with gp? There is no real applieance for it in pyro2. Seperating them will be quite hard3. As you mentioned ascorbic acid is Vitamin C, just buy the 100% pure powder from you next supermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Im using it as an alternative to bp/flash powderI don't mind if it's difficult, I want to explore the scienceI live in Australia and I doubt they have 100% pure, but I might have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Food grade will be expensive but pharmaceutical grade will be even more expensive Keep looking in the shops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdercks Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 smokechemicals.com sells ascorbic acid, $6.00 per pound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't want to buy online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Extracting it depends on what else is in the tablets. Most members will be more willing to help you if you show you're putting in even the smallest amount of research or thinking, instead of just asking to be spoonfed answers or solutions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) The rest is binder I might try making the stuff with nakkas guide to crimson powderI'll try posting some pictures of the tablets and the ingredients Edited July 10, 2014 by Milyan720 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedinger Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Sure that your tabletts contain 200mg of binder? That would be quite a lot. The one i get at the local supermarket contain sodium carbonat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Sodium ascorbate is also vitamin c , the other 500mg might be filler abd binder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindsight Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Milyan720, Are you still hanging noodles on our ears?! Extracting Ascorbic acid from vitamin C tablets is a trivial matter. But extracting Potassium Nitrate from bat guano...that is a worthy endeavor. It is difficult to get the bats to hold still enough, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Lol, I heard that potassium nitrate crystals grow on the sides of bat caves. Kno3 is easier to extract because of its solubility chart, but playing with bat sh*t isnt something everyone would go, unless your fearless. I once laughed so hard while eating noodles and one noodle came out my nose :b I think noodles look nice on people's ears Edited July 11, 2014 by Milyan720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paravani Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Milyan, you don't need to use tablets! What are you doing, robbing your mom's medicine cabinet for fireworks chems? If you're an adult with more money than a kid's allowance, you can go to your local health food store and buy Vitamin C powder. I'm sure that Australia also has health food stores. Here in the US, a one-pound bottle of 100% pure, food-grade ascorbic acid sells for between $10-$20, depending whether you buy it at a health-food co-op, or at a swank, up-scale market on Nob Hill. If you can't afford a pound of ascorbic acid, you aren't going to be able afford the setup to extract it from tablets, either. Really, stop the silly posts and start doing your own research. A simple search on "ascorbic acid" would have revealed that it's sold pure, by the bottle, in vitamin stores. Sheesh. Sometimes I think school should stay in session year round! -- Paravani. Edited July 13, 2014 by Paravani 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessoman Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Milyan, the chems used for BP are perfectly legal and easy to get. Any industrial supplier have it. I got 50kgs the other week pretty cheap from one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakenbake Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) I once laughed so hard while eating noodles and one noodle came out my nose :b I think noodles look nice on people's ears Wow cool story bro! Jess I bet he doesn't want BP its too much work. He wants golden powder cause he's a BOOMER! Edited July 14, 2014 by Jakenbake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessoman Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Yep Jake, It's sad isn't it. Is it school holidays or something at the moment? There's a few around. I love helping the young fellas, but they need to learn how to stay alive. Edited July 14, 2014 by jessoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 ... But extracting Potassium Nitrate from bat guano...that is a worthy endeavor. It is difficult to get the bats to hold still enough, though.Guanidine Nitrate is used in some rocket propellants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 I don't have any charcoal or sulfur but I have a lump of coal. I could make bp without Sulphur but I can be bothered grinding down the coal because I know it wont be any good without a ball mill. I need some kind of powdered propellant in small quantities for a cannon im working on. I could use AM but that pressure/friction sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Milyan, the chems used for BP are perfectly legal and easy to get. Any industrial supplier have it. I got 50kgs the other week pretty cheap from one.Lol I live in Australia, I got kno3 which is illegal (unless its under %30). Ill be needing a license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Coal and charcoal are not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 But don't they both work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 No, no they are not interchangeable. It would be wise for you to spend time learning about the proper processes before trying to cut corners and improvise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessoman Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Do you have any documentation supporting your kno3 statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milyan720 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 http://www.instructables.com/community/Where-to-get-Potassium-Nitrate-in-Brisbane-Austra/I'm pretty sure it illegal without a license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paravani Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 http://www.instructables.com/community/Where-to-get-Potassium-Nitrate-in-Brisbane-Austra/I'm pretty sure it illegal without a license I'm pretty sure you're too young for a license. -- Paravani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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