AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Is this Class C? http://www.pyrobin.com/files/20130107_192019.jpg It's a 1.91" Smoke Salute, it weighs 55.0 g +/- 0.1 g, it is broken with 5 g of Flash (Thunder #3), and time fuse is cut for 1 second. Edited January 8, 2013 by AirCowPeacock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) One second, gotta fix link. Fixed. Edited January 8, 2013 by AirCowPeacock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkInLight Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 If you made it it's not class c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Correct, but is this within limitations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 What this really comes down to is whether or not this could be considered an areial shell, and not salute? I have been told chinese shells are pretty much all flash broken, but perhaps not this quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) No. 5 grams of flash is WAY more than the limit for flash in a consumer shell. The limit for aerial effects is 130 Mg. Edited January 8, 2013 by nater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying fish Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Flash limit in a consumer shell is 130 mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Several years ago I opened a 1.91" consumer round shell (something I try not to do anymore,) and it sure seemed to have more than 130 mg of F in it. More like , 2 or 3 grams. I've read 130 mg of composition for "any sort of areial report." But I assume that, based on its wording, doesn't mean 130 mg limit for F in any device, just in areial reports. But the purpose of a smoke salute is not the report atall, but the dispersion of chalk dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 The limit is the limit. The Chinese often break the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yeah, they sure do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagabu Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Is this Class C? http://www.pyrobin.c...0107_192019.jpg It's a 1.91" Smoke Salute, it weighs 55.0 g +/- 0.1 g, it is broken with 5 g of Flash (Thunder #3), and time fuse is cut for 1 second. No, it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyco_1322 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 They get around the 130mg by using something other than flash, just cause it's dark and burns fast doesn't make it "flash". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Do you have any idea what it might be? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 your thinking the 30 milligram limit on ground salutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 It's 50mg for ground salutes and firecrackers, 130mg for aerial devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanluthiers Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 What does the government define as "flash"? I found 300mg in firecrackers in Taiwan (I mean those chain firecrackers, not boomers), and they are LOUD despite the fact that the flash slow when burned in the open. I have not opened cakes but judging how loud they are, and the amount of flash they make when the inserts break, I'd say 1 or 2 grams in them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 What does Taiwanese products or Taiwanese government definitions of flash have anything to do with what people are talking about here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 It's 50mg for ground salutes and firecrackers, 130mg for aerial devices. Yes, of course. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizznt Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Some class c shells can get up to that size, but I think that one wouldn't be a class c because of the amount of flash powder you used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyco_1322 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It's not Class C (1.4g) because you made it. NOTHING that is home made can be considered Class C, regardless of what you put in it. If you make it, it's automatically Class B (1.3g). By the way, the terms Class C and Class B are not used anymore, its just referred to as 1.4g and 1.3g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan999ification Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 if you make it its 1.1g here, surely you cant class an item whether it be 1.1g 1.3g 1.4g class b or c unless it is approved by the gov. A homemade fountain can be 1.1g dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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