Blackthumb Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Your favorite "reactive target" mix, small water bottle/]1/4" time fuse/blasting cap/1 lb motor.... Edited December 1, 2012 by Blackthumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I have seen side by side comparisons of this method with a regular salute. A small salute with also trigger the target mixture. I didn't notice a difference in the volume, but the thump in your chest. From the AN mixture was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousamateur Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 but the thump in your chest. From the AN mixture was better. Did you witness this in real life?Is it worth the extremely dangerous hassle with the blasting cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I witnessed a comparison between the different salutes first hand that is why I know how they felt, but had nothing to do with their construction. I do know in the ones I saw, the AN mixture was triggered by a small salute and not a blasting cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaMtnBkr Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 What is extremely dangerous about a commercial blasting cap? Thousands are used on a daily basis without issue. Now if it's something you cooked up in your garage I would be hesitant. I just wish it was possible to get commercial caps easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potassiumchlorate Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Some primary explosives are not that dangerous even if homemade. Paradoxically lead azide is one of the more sensitive ones. They chose it for commercial blasting caps because it is stable to store it for many years. There are some that don't store so well but are both less sensitive and perform better (no, I won't tell which they are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagabu Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Lets move the blasting caps talk to the HE section, blasting caps have NO place in fireworks, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think we sort of ended up on blasting caps since nobody wanted to call BS on AN "salutes". We pretty much all know there is no "salute" that will get AN to detonate, so it pretty much has to be a primary explosive in there. The thing is, most, if not all the primary explosives that can be obtained easily are so darn sensitive i'm not convinced they'd make it through the launch. Anyway, i guess the AN "mixture" doesn't really have to be a HE, but i cant really remember any salute formulas including AN.B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algenco Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) I think we sort of ended up on blasting caps since nobody wanted to call BS on AN "salutes". We pretty much all know there is no "salute" that will get AN to detonate, so it pretty much has to be a primary explosive in there. The thing is, most, if not all the primary explosives that can be obtained easily are so darn sensitive i'm not convinced they'd make it through the launch. Anyway, i guess the AN "mixture" doesn't really have to be a HE, but i cant really remember any salute formulas including AN.B! sure there is, seen it done numerous times 25lb AN/Al was detonated at a club shoot using a commercial 1.75" salute as the initiater I've saw several canisters/ball shell salutes that used this method.not worth the effort in most cases Edited December 4, 2012 by Algenco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potassiumchlorate Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Shimizu Thunder no. 3 or potassium perchlorate+potassium dichromate+magnesium is all that you need for a good report 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algenco Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Shimizu Thunder no. 3 or potassium perchlorate+potassium dichromate+magnesium is all that you need for a good report yep, no need for all the other stuff I like Thunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yep, I was there. Saw the blades of grass lay down and just grinned! And yes, AN salutes are not worth the effort. sure there is, seen it done numerous times 25lb AN/Al was detonated at a club shoot using a commercial 1.75" salute as the initiater I've saw several canisters/ball shell salutes that used this method.not worth the effort in most cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algenco Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Aren't you glad they were discouraged from using 100lb Yep, I was there. Saw the blades of grass lay down and just grinned! And yes, AN salutes are not worth the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Aren't you glad they were discouraged from using 100lb Yes, and I was a little worried when they moved past me to be further away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algenco Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yes, and I was a little worried when they moved past me to be further away.... I was in the campground, close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirCowPeacock Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Shimizu Thunder no. 3 or potassium perchlorate+potassium dichromate+magnesium is all that you need for a good report Thunder #3!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 For what it's worth, the blasting cap talk came about from the original post where it is specified. Anyway, you guys could could just stop making baby salutes. The formula does not matter one bit outside of economics when it's a 10lb bottom shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyco_1322 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) This is an AN based salute, around a pound IIRC. It was initiated with normal flash, not HE's. Made another salute for the ground range with the same AN stuff later that week, but it's not that exciting to watch, hardly even puts out any light. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRIC36LCSs Edited December 4, 2012 by psyco_1322 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Cool, i just keep learning here.B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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