bob Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) so first off I shot of my very first baggy header I used green flying fish fuse and some old bp for burst I thing it did pretty good and second off I shot of a 1/2 inch star mine (I did not have many stars and so I had to go small) using white kno3 stars it was ok to I wounder why it had a spark tail bob Edited July 18, 2012 by bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LehighValleyPyro Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 "white kno3 stars it was ok to I wounder why it had a spark tail"the charcoal, unless you added a metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 no metal I can't wait to try them in a shell with 1.6 parts charcoal I wounder how it did it bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Could it be the prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechewy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 very pretty effects:)! I ant wait to beable to get some suflur to try making kno3 white. Im kinda new so i was just wondering. What did u put the baggie hader on? Was it just an ariel shell type launch but with a baggie of stars and bp?or a rocket header? Im just trying to understand and leeearn as much as i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) very pretty effects:)! I ant wait to beable to get some suflur to try making kno3 white. Im kinda new so i was just wondering. What did u put the baggie hader on? Was it just an ariel shell type launch but with a baggie of stars and bp?or a rocket header? Im just trying to understand and leeearn as much as i canThanks thechewyI used a half inch rocket to lift it @ nater) I guess I could be the prime I used green mix but I thought that would burn of before they got to far out to the mine bob Edited July 19, 2012 by bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Thechewy, those types of bag headers will only work on rockets or girandolas. They are nowhere near strong enough to survive the lift pressures in a mortar. They are very quick and easy way to get a little color in your rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechewy Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 thank you for all the great info! I only have TTs and chrysanthemum of mystery stars. Can u give me a few tips on how to balance my rockets with headers? I normally just make my rockets like 1/2 id and 1-2inch long. My stabilizer stick,i measure 6times longer than the rockets lenght. Thats without headers and they almost alway go straight. But when i try it with any header,when i try headers. They take off sideways or copletely the oppisite way it started off. The main problem i have is my headers blow up right after lift off ,and the rocket finishes its flight. I wouldnt say cato because the rocket doesnt mess up,just th header detonates way to early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Are you building end burners or coreburners? Do you use commercial tooling to form the core? How much delay are you using above the core of the motor? Do you use a clay bulkhead and drill a pass fire hole before your header? After the header bursts (fireworks do not detonate, pet peeve of mine), can you see a flame from the burning motor, or is the rocket just coasting from the initial thrust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechewy Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 it would still have the tail fom the rocket. I drill a passfire hole on the side instead of the middle of the bulkhead. I never rllymeasured but i guess i would have to say not nough maybe. I dont have any pro tool,just wooden dowles,drills,clay,and thats about it lol. I lack alot of tooling and chems i want to get some kinda way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Okay, leave out the bulkhead. You might be drilling the passfire hole too deep, causing the header to ignite before the delay is spent. Are you making end-burners then? Or are you drilling a core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechewy Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 i tried both,same results. Just when i use core burners i end up with a cato. So mostly i make end burners lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Okay then, try an end burner that you know will fly only leave out the clay bulkhead. For a real simple header, mix a pinch of Ti in with some loose granulated BP. Fill the empty space of the motor tube with this mix and glue a paper disc on the end. It will pop with a puff of smoke so you know when a header would have burst. If you have the Ti, you will get a splash of silver that should be bright enough to be seen during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) I don't think he has Ti you can just put in some stars insted of Ti and do it a little later and then you can see if it lights. With out a bulk head I don't see how it could not light bob Edited July 20, 2012 by bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagabu Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) This is a 1/2" endburner with the BP and Ti like Nate talks about but attached to a monocopter wing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtNZ57B1Q8U&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active -dag Edited July 20, 2012 by dagabu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graumann Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 that is awesome, any pics of the device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nater Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 that is awesome, any pics of the device? Dag's Tutorial - http://www.pyrobin.com/files/monocopter%20tutorial.doc Danny C's Tutorial - http://www.wichitabuggywhip.com/fireworks/rockets/HelicopterStuff/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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