WonderBoy Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 A 1lb MnO2 rocket. This was my first attempt at this type of rocket, so I think it went pretty well, thanks to FrankRizzo for answering my questions. After launching it, I regret not waiting until dark. A fellow club member shot this video. I shot it using my point and shoot camera; it was so bright on launch that it overloaded the sensor and created black lines in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEtT70yTMiM&feature=relmfu WB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potassiumchlorate Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 What is the comp? Just manganese dioxide and magnalium? Can it be rammed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabuse00 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice one What mesh was the magnalium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drthrust Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) yes please tell us the comp,and your tooling? ive made a few in the past with pyro ali, but nowhere as good as those, I've always wondered if they could be a viable alternative to bp motors Edited June 21, 2012 by drthrust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderBoy Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 The composition is: "MnO2 rocketby andy h. Manganese Dioxide (ceramic grade): 68Magnalium (ball milled 6hr..dunno mesh, probably ~500-600): 32 Mix with 3% by weight of 5% NC lacquer solution, thinned with additional acetone to fully wet the mix. Then, granulate through 30mesh screen into little ''worms''." I used 325 mesh MgAl, it may not have been as bright or fast as the 500 mesh specified, but it worked alright. I pressed it, with a nozzle, on my "standard" BP tooling. This one was lit from about the middle of the core, so it could have had a bit more thrust if it were lit from the top Just the thought of something that hot going off in my hands would keep me away from ramming it. WB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potassiumchlorate Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Do you think it can be rammed? It'd be fun to try this composition, but I don't have a press. Ruby Red, Electric Magenta and Kyle Kepley's Green can all be rammed, containing 12% MgAl and 8% potassium perchlorate. Edited June 26, 2012 by Potassiumchlorate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagabu Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do you think it can be rammed? It'd be fun to try this composition, but I don't have a press. Ruby Red, Electric Magenta and Kyle Kepley's Green can all be rammed, containing 12% MgAl and 8% potassium perchlorate. Can we call you lefty? Seriously, the only fuel I feel is "safe" to ram is BP. -dag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drthrust Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 thanks wb ,i wasn't far off with mine, i used 70/30 but riced with mineral oil, i little hot for my liking im guessing the nc lacquer helps the control the burn how sensitive are manganese dioxide comps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankRizzo Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The sensitivity goes up pretty quickly as you decrease the magnalium particle size. When I was initially experimenting with commercial MgAl, all I could find was 200-mesh. I performed the usual "hammmer on concrete" test for impact and friction sensitivity, and couldn' get it to pop. When I started using homemade, ball-milled MgAl however, I was able to get it to ignite by impact, but not friction. Any fuel containing a powdered metal, magnesium especially, should *only* ever be pressed. MgAl has less sensitivity, but it will likely bite you when you least suspect it. If you don't have a press and need to hand-ram your motors, stick to BP-based fuels, and still be careful (welding gloves, eye protection, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabuse00 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) It'd be fun to try this composition, but I don't have a press. Ruby Red, Electric Magenta and Kyle Kepley's Green can all be rammed, containing 12% MgAl and 8% potassium perchlorate. I once hammered Emarald Green and it made a crack like lead azide Wet and carefully pounded I do not think it would go off, but I cannot estimate the risk... And a splash of hot manganese would be even more nasty. Will it light from visco alone or did you use some primer? I guess one could speed up the mix even more by using pure magnesium powder. Ball milling mgal is to much hassle imho. I really like the idea of such rockets, because they do not use "normal" oxidisers. Buying or importing them is likely to get one in trouble here. Manganese dioxide is easily available and won't be monitored like nitrates and chlorates. Edited June 28, 2012 by mabuse00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potassiumchlorate Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Germany is dreadfully politically correct and freedom-hating. You ought to be more like your neighbours in the east and south-east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderBoy Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sorry I missed the question about ignition. I "J" hooked a piece of visco and primed the end with an NC/fence post mixture. I stuck the fuse about halfway up the core, and it burned all the way up to the prime before igniting the fuel. WB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabuse00 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) Thx. Oh, and after reading through this tread again... What kind of nozzle material did you use? I would expect this fuel to be really rude to it... Edited July 9, 2012 by mabuse00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderBoy Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I just used kitty litter. I imagine that there wasn't much of a nozzle left by the time the motor was finished burning. WB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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