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[FlaMtnBkr]

Does anyone have the Skylighter firefly formula? I bought 5 lbs and it didn't come with the instructions. I have the aluminum and have heard it is a pretty good formula.

If you would rather pm me the details that would be fine.

Thanks

Edited by FlaMtnBkr, 01 January 2012 - 11:10 PM.

[Blackthumb]

Firefly star formula

http://www.skylighte...y-cut-stars.asp

Edited by Blackthumb, 01 January 2012 - 11:50 PM.

[nater]

http://www.skylighte...y-cut-stars.asp

It is based off of Shimizu Chrysanthemum 8 with 5% firefly aluminum added. I just got some firefly aluminum blend in a group buy and a few of us were discussing better results using SGRS instead of dextrin. We thought it was Mike Swisher who mentioned that first, but are not positive.

Edited by nater, 01 January 2012 - 11:53 PM.

[FlaMtnBkr]

Thanks for the replies and tips. I did a quick search there but didn't find it. Guess I spelled something wrong. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I've had the aluminum for over a year and when I looked in the container there wasn't even the standard MSDS so the paperwork must have been overlooked.

[allrocketspsl]

use the phneolic resin for added effect in the stars it lingers longer

[Mumbles]

I rather doubt Mr. Swisher would recommend the use of SGRS in firefly stars. I've used it, and it works fine though. He probably recommended the use of wheat paste to bind the stars/comets instead of water.

Allrockets, is this something you've actually observed with firefly stars, or just speculation?

These stars were SGRS bound. The effect was given away a bit early because I didn't quite get all of the fines screened out. These were not made with the cut firefly Al that skylighter sells. Rather a graded version of coarse flitters.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3ga4oqGOg84

[dagabu]

I rather doubt Mr. Swisher would recommend the use of SGRS in firefly stars. I've used it, and it works fine though. He probably recommended the use of wheat paste to bind the stars/comets instead of water.

Allrockets, is this something you've actually observed with firefly stars, or just speculation?

These stars were SGRS bound. The effect was given away a bit early because I didn't quite get all of the fines screened out. These were not made with the cut firefly Al that skylighter sells. Rather a graded version of coarse flitters.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3ga4oqGOg84

SGRS is also Gene Y. and Steve J's binder of choice for FFOC and it works phenomenally well. Mike did tell me directly and Gene via email that White Pine was essential for good FF.

-dag

[VintageRacer]

SGRS is also Gene Y. and Steve J's binder of choice for FFOC and it works phenomenally well. Mike did tell me directly and Gene via email that White Pine was essential for good FF.

-dag

Is that something new Dave, the white pine? It's my understanding from Bill Kimbrough himself, that SYP (southern yellow pine) is the coal of choice for this particular effect. He's sent some to me a couple of times now to spare me buying boards at the lumber store. Then again, that's Bill's particular formula which may be different.

Can't say on the binder. I typically use dextrin but will try the SGRS one of these days.


DanB

[dagabu]

Dan, I'm sorry, spoke before I could check my notes.
My bad... There a few of us that struggled through the whole trial last year and the effect for the FFOC was only achieved with southern yellow pine.

-dag

[6squirrels]

just out of curiosity, what is firefly aluminum? i would assume that it's just a form in the sense that flakes, dust, and spherical are forms.

[Mumbles]

It's a form of coarse flake. It was originally made with something that resembles something like large mesh bright flake Al that was graded to only include the coarse stuff. Now some people use something that looks more like chopped up aluminum foil. It's regular rectangles of aluminum, almost like glitter or little pieces of confetti.