Mumbles Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I haven’t tried all of these, I don't think many people would have but for all you glitter buffs here is Robert Winokurs 40 Glitter Formulas. Winokur #1Potassium Nitrate 35Strontium Nitrate 15Charcoal Airfloat 13Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Sulfur 10Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Dextrin 5Pinkish magnalium glitter. Hygroscopic, but possibly useable.Winokur #2Potassium Nitrate 40Strontium Nitrate 10Charcoal Airfloat 13Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Sulfur 10Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Dextrin 5Pinkish magnalium glitter. Hygroscopic, but possibly useable.Winokur #3Potassium Nitrate 50Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Sulfur 9Charcoal Airfloat 8Strontium Carbonate 6Dextrin 4Pinkish magnalium glitter. Hygroscopic, but possibly useable.Winokur #4Potassium Nitrate 50Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Sulfur 9Charcoal Airfloat 8Strontium Oxalate 6Dextrin 4Pinkish magnalium glitter. Hygroscopic, but possibly useable. Winokur #5Potassium Nitrate 40Sodium Nitrate 10Charcoal Airfloat 10Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Sulfur 9Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 9Strontium Oxalate 8Dextrin 4Pinkish magnalium glitter. Extremely hygroscopic, but possibly useable.Winokur #6Potassium Nitrate 53Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 16Charcoal Airfloat 13Sulfur 9Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 4.5Dextrin 4.5A white glitter with a rather high percentage of antimony trisulfide. This typifies some of the traditional white glitter formulae. The high antimony content probably makes it too expensive for regular use today.Winokur #7Potassium Nitrate 35Barium Nitrate 20Sulfur 14Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 9Sodium Oxalate 8Dextrin 4Gold glitter that uses sodium oxalate to enhance the glitter without the use of antimony trisulfide. Sodium bicarbonate may replace the oxalate with similar results. It is probably too hygroscopic for ordinary use.Winokur #8Potassium Nitrate 37Barium Nitrate 15Sulfur 15Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 13Charcoal Airfloat 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 6Dextrin 4Reasonably good white MgAl glitter that uses iron oxide and sulfur to replace antimony trisulfide. While the effect is inferior to antimony, the formula is still useable.Winokur #9Potassium Nitrate 35Barium Nitrate 20Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Charcoal Airfloat 10Sulfur 10Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 9Dextrin 4A reasonably good white glitter that uses barium nitrate as both the oxidizer and the ''retardant.''Winokur #10Potassium Nitrate 35Barium Nitrate 20Sulfur 17Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 14Charcoal Airfloat 10Dextrin 4Excellent white glitter with long tail, and fine grain. Flashes are dense and of the asymmetrical type.Winokur #11Potassium Nitrate 40Barium Nitrate 20Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 14Sulfur 10Charcoal Airfloat 10Dextrin 5Iron (III) Oxide, red 1Excellent white glitter with long tail, and fine grain. Flashes are dense and of the asymmetrical type.Winokur #12Potassium Nitrate 55Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 14Charcoal Airfloat 11Sulfur 8Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 5Dextrin 4Strontium Carbonate 3Excellent white glitter with long tail, and fine grain. Flashes are dense and of the asymmetrical type. Winokur #13Potassium Nitrate 50Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Charcoal Airfloat 9Sulfur 9Sodium Bicarbonate 9Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 6Dextrin 4Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 3Unusual “off-white” glitter with attractive lacy effect especially when viewed close up. Has debris laden flashes.Winokur #14Potassium Nitrate 50Sulfur 11Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 8Dextrin 5Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 5Sodium Bicarbonate 5Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 4Unusual “off-white” glitter with attractive lacy effect especially when viewed close up. Has debris laden flashes.Winokur #15Potassium Nitrate 48Magnalium Granular -325 mesh 14Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Charcoal Airfloat 9Sulfur 9Sodium Bicarbonate 7Dextrin 4Gold magnalium glitter. Large flashes, good delay and long tail if moving at slow speeds. Good terminal delay. 15 and 16 show the non-critical percentages for this sort of mixture.Winokur #16Potassium Nitrate 48Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Charcoal Airfloat 11Sulfur 9Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 9Sodium Bicarbonate 7Dextrin 4Gold magnalium glitter. Large flashes, good delay and long tail if moving at slow speeds. Good terminal delay. 15 and 16 show the non-critical percentages for this sort of mixture.Winokur #17Potassium Nitrate 47Charcoal Airfloat 13Sulfur 13Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Dextrin 5White coarse grained glitter. Similar to Win 15 and 16 except white in color instead of gold. An excellent effect.Winokur #18Potassium Nitrate 50Sulfur 15Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 13Charcoal Airfloat 10Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 7Dextrin 5White coarse grained glitter. Similar to Win 15 and 16 except white in color instead of gold. An excellent effect.Winokur #19Potassium Nitrate 50Sulfur 20Charcoal Airfloat 10Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 10Sodium Bicarbonate 6Dextrin 4Coarse gold glitter with short tail, moderate density, and good delay. The advantage is that it doesn't contain antimony trisulfide, making it a cheaper glitter comp.Winokur #20Potassium Nitrate 48Sulfur 17Magnalium Granular -200 mesh 12Charcoal Airfloat 10Sodium Bicarbonate 5Iron (III) Oxide, red 4Dextrin 4Gold glitter similar to Win 19, with very long delay. Produces no very distinctive tail and tends to produce a “twinkler effect”, very large glitter flashes being widely dispersed giving a strobe like appearance. Winokur #21Potassium Nitrate 52Sulfur 15Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 6Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 6Sodium Bicarbonate 6Dextrin 5Medium grained dense gold glitter using baking soda as a burning inhibitor and glitter enhancer. Marginally better than #23.Winokur #22Potassium Nitrate 50Sulfur 18Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 8Sodium Bicarbonate 6Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 4Dextrin 4Medium grained dense gold glitter using baking soda as a burning inhibitor and glitter enhancer. Marginally better than #23.Winokur #23Potassium Nitrate 50Sulfur 20Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 8Sodium Bicarbonate 8Dextrin 4Medium grained dense gold glitter using baking soda as a burning inhibitor and glitter enhancer. Marginally worse than #21 and 22 due to the lack of antimony sulphide.Winokur #24Potassium Nitrate 52Sulfur 21Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 6Sodium Chloride 6Dextrin 5Produces a good gold glitter with excellent color and good delay. Unfortunately, it is quite hygroscopic. Somewhat less hygroscopic than the same formula with sodium nitrate substituted in for sodium chloride. Winokur #25Potassium Nitrate 52Sulfur 17Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 6Sodium Bicarbonate 5Iron (III) Oxide, red 5Dextrin 5A gold glitter with similar characteristics to #26. Appears to be quite sensitive to the amount of moisture used, no more than 8% water should be used when mixing. The low usage of expensive metals makes this a very cheap formula ideally suited for comets.Winokur #26Potassium Nitrate 52Sulfur 21Charcoal Airfloat 10Aluminium, (Flake, bright -325 mesh, 36 micron) 6Iron (III) Oxide, red 6Dextrin 5An excellent white glitter with fairly large flashes and a medium short tail when moving at high speeds. Not a very fast burning mixture. Gives a long tail when free falling, and is well suited to willow type effects. Cheap and non-hygroscopic. The low usage of expensive metals makes this a very cheap formula ideally suited for comets.Winokur #27Potassium Nitrate 50Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Charcoal Airfloat 9Sulfur 9Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 9Sodium Bicarbonate 9Dextrin 4A delicate, fine grained, “off-white” glitter that produces small but symmetrical flashes of moderate density and delay. Fallout with this formula is large enough to pose a potential problem. Slightly hygroscopic, but usable. Inferior to #28-30.Winokur #28Potassium Nitrate 50Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Charcoal Airfloat 9Sulfur 9Sodium Bicarbonate 9Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) micron 6Dextrin 4Aluminium, (Flake, Dark, American Dark, -325 mesh) 3A delicate, fine grained, “off-white” glitter that produces small but symmetrical flashes of moderate density and delay. Slightly hygroscopic, but usable. Dark aluminium is added to solve problems with fallout and increase flash density. Substituting sodium oxalate for sodium bicarbonate results in a similar effect but noticeably less fallout. #28, 29, and 30 are all very similar.Winokur #29Potassium Nitrate 50Sulfur 15Charcoal Airfloat 10Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 7Sodium Bicarbonate 7Dextrin 4Aluminium, (Flake, Dark, American Dark, -325 mesh) 1A delicate, fine grained, “off-white” glitter that produces small but symmetrical flashes of moderate density and delay. Slightly hygroscopic, but usable. Dark aluminium is added to solve problems with fallout and increase flash density. #28, 29, and 30 are all very similar.Winokur #30Potassium Nitrate 50Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 10Charcoal Airfloat 9Sulfur 9Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 8Sodium Bicarbonate 6Aluminium, (Flake, Dark, American Dark, -325 mesh) 4Dextrin 4A delicate, fine grained, “off-white” glitter that produces small but symmetrical flashes of moderate density and delay. Slightly hygroscopic, but usable. Dark aluminium is added to solve problems with fallout and increase flash density. #28, 29, and 30 are all very similar.Winokur #31Potassium Nitrate 45Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Barium Nitrate 10Charcoal Airfloat 10Sulfur 10Dextrin 5Iron (III) Oxide, red 4Barium Carbonate 4Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results. Winokur #32Potassium Nitrate 38Barium Nitrate 14Sulfur 13Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Charcoal Airfloat 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 8Dextrin 5Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Fierce burning. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results.Winokur #33Potassium Nitrate 43Barium Nitrate 13Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 13Charcoal Airfloat 10Sulfur 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 7Dextrin 4Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Fierce burning. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results.Winokur #34Potassium Nitrate 40Barium Nitrate 16Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Charcoal Airfloat 10Sulfur 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 7Dextrin 5Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Fierce burning. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results. Winokur #35Potassium Nitrate 36Barium Nitrate 16Sulfur 13Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Charcoal Airfloat 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 8Dextrin 5Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results. Winokur #36Potassium Nitrate 38Barium Nitrate 16Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Charcoal Airfloat 10Sulfur 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 10Dextrin 4Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Marginally longer delay than #35-38, but with noticeably lower density and some significant fallout. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results.Winokur #37Potassium Nitrate 40Barium Nitrate 14Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Sulfur 11Charcoal Airfloat 10Iron (III) Oxide, red 7Dextrin 4Barium Carbonate 2Excellent, cheap white glitter with medium sized flashes. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results.Winokur #38Potassium Nitrate 40Barium Nitrate 13Sulfur 12Charcoal Airfloat 12Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 12Iron (III) Oxide, red 7Dextrin 4White glitter with medium size flashes. Charcoal is the burning retardant. Excellent star with long tail and large flashes. Moisture exceeding 8% produces inferior results.Winokur #39Potassium Nitrate 51Charcoal Airfloat 19Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 12Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 8Barium Carbonate 5Dextrin 5Unusual and peculiarly attractive effect. Produced dense white, fine trained tail with asymmetric flashes. The delay is quite long, as is the length and duration of the tail. Most flashes are long lasting and have long curved trajectories. The jetting flashes result in particularly elegant effect. Originated from the Jacob’s Ladder formula potentially made by Pain’s in BritainWinokur #39JPotassium Nitrate 51Charcoal Airfloat 19Antimony Trisulfide, Chinese Needle 12Aluminium, (atom, spher, 120-325 mesh, 20 micron) 9Barium Carbonate 5Dextrin 4Magnalium, granular, -60 mesh 2.5Use 2% barium carbonate for first prime layer. Use 6 to 6.5 percent moisture for comets and crossettes. A modification of Win39 made by Tom Rebenklau.All credit goes to Mr. Robert Winokur for providing the firework community with a range of wonderful glitter compositions. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: FrKoNaLeaSh101 Posted on: February 4th, 2005, 9:45pmI have tested Winokur's #23 glitter. It is basically exactly as Blind describes it."Medium grained dense gold glitter"I plan on trying some of the BaNO3 ones soon to make some white/silver glitters....I am getting sick of the gold fish glitter. I still have yet to try D1 glitter though. but I can vouch for #23 glitter as a pretty dense gold spritzel tail.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: Crazy_Swede Posted on: February 5th, 2005, 9:38amRegardingQuote:It is basically exactly as Blind describes it.I doubt that Blindreeper really has tried all those formulas. As I recall, the descriptions came from Winokur's monograph, printed by Pyrotechnica!One should know that many of his formulas burn a bit slow and sluggishly. Mr. Winokur later actually admitted that he often added some commercial coarse-grained black powder to his compositions to get a more fierce burning comet with a longer tail!I think I have posted my own glitter formulas at least two times before on this forum, use the search engine if interested. They are inspired by Winoukur but burn faster and with longer tails.Posted by: blindreeper Posted on: February 5th, 2005, 3:01pmYes you are right, I didn't write those descriptions. I just thought it would be of interest to some people and inspire them to modify to get a better effect.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: chris17 Posted on: October 23rd, 2005, 7:22amHas anyone had any luck with Winokur 26? I replaced the flake Al with Spherical Al 325 mesh and rolled to stars, but they seem to be very hard to ignite. I didn't prime them so maybe that would make a difference?+++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: Mumbles Posted on: December 27th, 2005, 5:18pmI am looking to make some Winokur glitters for new years. Number 34 to be exact. I used one before, #16. I trust that the formula will produce a good result. The purpose of my question is to see if I should ball mill the components(sans the Al) together before hand, or if I could get away with simply mixing the chemicals? I am running out of time, and I would really love to be able to mix them and have the effect work.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: rooster Posted on: December 28th, 2005, 4:14amIn my D1 glitter, I always milled the sulfur and the KNO3 together, because it would make the mix a free-flowing powder, whereas the sulfur would cake alone and make clumps in the composition(hard to roll).If you are rolling these stars, you have to make sure all the ingredients are enough mesh, so the comp stays together. If you are pumping or cutting(not recommended for glitters) it doesn't matter too much.I would not mill the whole mix sans aluminium. It totally destroys the glitter effect, at least for the glitters I have done. The glitter grains become so fine and fast burning you won't be able to distinguish them in the tail. Mix the chems as coarse as you can while still making the composition able to work with.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: _Po_ Posted on: December 28th, 2005, 7:20amI milled Fish Golden Glitter sans the Al and it worked fine. It could be that they're the only glitter stars I've seen and don't have a good comparison, but they seem fine.I just milled the comp until it was fine (looked roughly 300 mesh), then mixed in the Al by hand.Here's how they turned out:http://www.geocities...ost/glitter.mpg+++++++++++++++++++++++++++Posted by: Mumbles Posted on: December 28th, 2005, 12:22pmI have some hand mixed ones. I made a small 10g test batch to see how they preform. I plan to light a small starmine with them tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I tried and tested #23 and it worked great with one exception. Just like my TT stars, there was left over slag that liked to fall from the sky and hit the ground. I milled my C for a long time, but there were still the molten balls that hit the ground.Has anyone else had this problem with these glitters? My carbon is the stuff from a bag at Walmart. They aren't briquets, they are lump charcoal pieces. Seeing as how my glitters worked very well, and didn't consume all of that available fuel, can anyone forsee a problem with cutting the C from 10 down to 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 From C 10 to 5 and KNO3 50 to 55? Try one of the two or both and see. It's way to cold where I live to be testing things right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I saw that some comps have dark Al added, to decrease fallout. Does this just make it burn hotter so it burns up all of the extra C fuel? Or is the fallout actually red hot Al? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I've concluded that the fallout is Al. The Al melts instead of burns and falls molten to the earth. I will try adding some 600 mesh MgAl to try and solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I tried the MgAl split 50/50 with the Al in winokers 23. It actually made the fallout worse. It gave the glitter more symetrical flashes, and it rained down molten MgAl. I think my MgAl may be shitty though because of the issues I have had with it, and the Mg came from a motorcycle engine cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymon Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Tried number 26 with a 35mm film can shell & approx 10 stars 1cm cylinders. Excellent effect for cheap chemicals. One of my most favorite compositions. No need to prime stars. Noticed that plenty of commercial shells use glitter a lot. I will try some of the other formulas. Only problem is testing out shells during the late spring/summer months means that its really late before it gets dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al93535 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I have been looking for a good glitter. I have tried win 39, and it does give a nice tail with some glitter. But so far I really like win 20 the best, raiderzon tried it and then I did, and I must say I love this glitter! Lots of bright glitter almost like strobes! I just tried win 10 and I didn't like it much at all. I am going to test win 22 real soon as well. I think I will also try #26 now. Also, I have found the type of charcaol plays a big role in the glitter effect. I got no glitter in quite a few comps using pine charcoal. As soon as I switched to a mixed hardwood charcaol I got lots of glitter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 I have gotten a good glitter with pine C but better without other C. My problem with glitters I believe is the Al. I grind it down from Al foil which is not pure, and it leaves unburnt fallout. My third test was glitter with 50:50 Al grund from Al foil, and 600 mesh flash Al. All that did was destroy the glitter effect. Still the fallout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted May 14, 2006 Author Share Posted May 14, 2006 If you have fall out, try ball milling the non metallic/sparking ingredients. This generally means keep Sb2S3 out as well. I made a 250g batch of #39 tonight. I proceeded to spill about half of it on the floor. Thanks to Al93535 I have some nice screens to filter the rice hulls, dirt, and paint flakes out. There is still a bit in there, but we shall see how that affects it. I've never made this composition before, but I will let people know what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 What does the iron oxide do for the glitter reaction? 11 and 12 are similar except for the iron oxide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psymon Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Doesnt the Iron oxide and Aluminium create a thermite type reaction? I have only made #26 using iron oxide and aluminium and it works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4j0n Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 What effect does the antimony trisulfide type compositions give? Are the fumes from the burning stars dangerous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 The antimony causes the flash delay. That is essentially the difference between a snowball, and a glitter. A snowball has no delay on the flashes, while a glitter will have a delay before the flash providing a prettier effect in my opinion. It may also help to brighten the flashes once they do go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4j0n Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 So I pumped 1/4" stars with winokur 23, and it seems to burn extremely fast. Is this supposed to be a fast burning composition? It burns alot slower in a loose pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted December 8, 2006 Author Share Posted December 8, 2006 Yes, I've noticed that same difference before. I'm really not sure which one is which. If anyone has a copy of Pyrotechnica 2, it would be nice to look up the correct one. [edit] Found the problem. #31 was doubled up for #39. I'll fix it. Something I never got was that I've seen gold win 39. I think this person had their formulas mixed up to. It was gold and they described it as "cheap", which generally means no Sb2S3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplmac Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I made Degn's White Flitter, no strobe or glitter/flitter effect at all. Looked beautiful though. And it did leave some slag as well. Seems like it fused some of the flake aluminum rather than burning it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 I see no reason they couldn't be rolled. Everything is pretty fine and uniform. cpl, it's probably different in the air. Many tailed stars leave large amounts of slag on the ground. Since you seem to be a fan of the comp, perhaps you should start a new thread for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 Does anyone have a physical copy of Pyrotechnica II? I am looking to make some Win 13, but it only adds up to 91. I'm not sure if this is correct or not. 13 and 14 are supposed to be pretty similar, so I was almost wondering if there shouldn't be 5 or so parts BaCO3 in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asilentbob Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Sorry But on a side note, since these compositions are so great, perhaps they should be stickied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom2152 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Hey Mumbles which do you think is the best of each color? any preference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 Best is subjective toward what effect you like. I haven't gotten to try a whole lot of them out. 10, 20, 26, 31, and 39 to be specific. I have a batch of 13 mixed, but not dry yet. They were to be part of my sun and planet, that is delayed for a bit. 10 I only tried as crossettes. They didn't give off a long enough tail for my preferences. Being that they were pasted, I think a normal star of the comp would look very good. 20 gives a very nice effect, strobe like. I've been considering replacing the sodium bicarbonate with barium carbonate to try to get a white effect similar to it. 26 was more of a flitter in my experience. I didn't get the large flashes Winokur got. Instead I got a shimmering type of effect. I wonder if I didn't get it mixed well enough. The flake Al was hard to fully incorporate. 31 was excellent. Probably my favorite I've tried thus far. Very defined glitter. I believe I got an orange tail with silver flashes in it, which IMO is one of the prettier glitters. Win 39 has videos everywhere. Very nice I must say. 39J is even better. I like the slightly longer twinkling delay it has. Even though it's said to burn silver, I've seen many gold 39 effects. It makes me wonder what is different. I've heard very good things about 13 and 14 (silver and gold respectively). They are next on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherpyro Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I upped the bicarbonate in #20 to 12 in order to get the glitter to work in pumped stars. I wet 5% with 25:75 alcohol/water. I didn't shoot it hard enough in the video though. http://www.apcforum.net/files/glitter.wmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) If anyone cares for a PDF compilation of these 40 formulations, I'd rather have it as a resident file on APC (Mods, can you do this?) but it wouldn't take a PDF. I'll host it for now, but bandwidth is always an issue. Please save a copy if you download it from my web site. Thanks. MOD EDIT: Took care of that for ya, Swede. Edited June 17, 2008 by TheSidewinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSidewinder Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Attached as a file: (You can do this with the "File Attachment" button below the post editor window, btw.)winglitr.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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