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#21 BJV

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 08:44 AM

Wow that is a nice effect. Im looking forward to seeing a video of your shell. What stars are you going to use for the ring?


Adrenaline the silver stars I will be using can be seen in this
video. The are a simple star formula using KN03, Dark Alum.Atomized Alum. S. and meal powder.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:06 AM

Wau. These silver, or mabe golden shell look perfect. I must include BJV to forum's pyro elite:-)

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 04:48 PM

I cannot agree Sr(NO3)2 makes a so much better red than SrCO3. I have tried ruby red, and then organic chlorate/red gum/SrCO3 based red. The later is deep and beautiful and it is what I use now. I don't say the nitrate based sucks, ruby red is a very beautiful comp. But from my opinion, I'd go with the organic, mainly because of price and chemical avaibility issues. It is very nice and the only difference I notice between both (carbonate and nitrate) is the kind of red. SrCO3 tends to give a little on the pinkish side, while Sr(NO3)2 gives the purer blood like red.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:53 PM

I don't say the nitrate based sucks, ruby red is a very beautiful comp. But from my opinion, I'd go with the organic, mainly because of price and chemical avaibility issues.


Especially if one makes all their own chlorate!

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:16 AM

Guys, i have to admit i just made an epic fail... I rolled a 1000g batch of ruby red, because the formula worked out great years ago for me. I am rolling and pressing stars for weeks now, all dextrin bound formulae.. without even THINKING i rolled the 1000g with water/alcohol too..... Posted Image They are drying for 3 weeks now, in well ventilated area's and some days in the blistering sun, but i can't get them fully dry. As i have seen in earlier posts, there are no signs of cracking, or re-crystallization of salts used. They look perfectly nice, but they stay humid. What are my options: vacuum-dry them, wait very long, put them in the roller and soak them with acetone, .....or discard the whole batch on a campfire...? Posted Image lesson: keep your mind on the job you are doing!

EDIT: now i think about it... can water in moist stars be driven off by acetone...? Or would the water form a barrier? Assuming the viscosity of acetone is much much lower than water... And what if we mix acetone with alcohol, would that be sufficient to drive off the water ...?

Edited by spitfire, 14 July 2011 - 08:22 AM.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:59 AM

Guys, i have to admit i just made an epic fail... I rolled a 1000g batch of ruby red, because the formula worked out great years ago for me. I am rolling and pressing stars for weeks now, all dextrin bound formulae.. without even THINKING i rolled the 1000g with water/alcohol too..... Posted Image They are drying for 3 weeks now, in well ventilated area's and some days in the blistering sun, but i can't get them fully dry. As i have seen in earlier posts, there are no signs of cracking, or re-crystallization of salts used. They look perfectly nice, but they stay humid. What are my options: vacuum-dry them, wait very long, put them in the roller and soak them with acetone, .....or discard the whole batch on a campfire...? Posted Image lesson: keep your mind on the job you are doing!

EDIT: now i think about it... can water in moist stars be driven off by acetone...? Or would the water form a barrier? Assuming the viscosity of acetone is much much lower than water... And what if we mix acetone with alcohol, would that be sufficient to drive off the water ...?


I just rolled Ruby Red with Dextrine as the binder on top of BP cores three weeks ago and used water as well. I put them in my dehydrator and they were (Baggy in the sun to check) dry in two days. It was very muggy here then as well.

Acetone will actually pull water into the comp, not drive it out. Alcohol will work better but it may also make mush from your stars. Sounds like something went wrong....

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:10 AM

Hmmm... I rolled my batch and rolled the prime at the same time. (a mistake i make sometimes when i get too exited and want to finish the job) First i thought they got driven in, but after a few days that didn't seem to be the case. Then i thought of the slightly hygroscopic Sr(NO3)2 but that couldn't be that bad. Thanks for the tip dag, i will use a dehydrator and see what happens. Throwing a whole batch of ruby red on a campfire feels something like shooting the dog because he is barking... it just doesn't feel rightPosted Image
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