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#1 Algenco

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 04:27 PM

I can't find it, don't own the right books.
If anyone has Hardt's Nishiki Kamuro formula I would appreciate it


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Posted 22 December 2010 - 04:55 PM

It was posted a short time ago here. Here is the link:

http://www.amateurpy...old-crown-comp/
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#3 Algenco

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 06:14 PM

ok thanks, didn't know it was also called Gold Wave
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 06:27 PM

Frankly, I have no idea whatsoever if it is correct, I would like to see what it does for you though ;)

Nishiki Kamuro can be a lot of different effects, the Kamuro is the haircut look of the stars as they drop, Nishiki Kamuro is just Japanese for Brocade Crown.
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 06:32 PM

Frankly, I have no idea whatsoever if it is correct, I would like to see what it does for you though Posted Image

Nishiki Kamuro can be a lot of different effects, the Kamuro is the haircut look of the stars as they drop, Nishiki Kamuro is just Japanese for Brocade Crown.



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Posted 22 December 2010 - 06:45 PM

How about:


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Posted 22 December 2010 - 06:59 PM

That's what I want!!
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 08:45 PM

Well, lets start with the 12" shell...
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 09:02 PM

sure, you build it
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 09:39 PM

HEY!! You are the guy that wants a uber brocade shell :blush:

Imagine, building up 1/2" of pasted paper to contain the shell.... by hand. :huh:
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Posted 22 December 2010 - 11:17 PM

You gotta make a red strobing pistil!!!! It looks amazing.

Dagabu, that's why they made the wasp. It's not like they're that expensive :wacko:

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:31 AM

Imagine, building up 1/2" of pasted paper to contain the shell.... by hand. :huh:


HELL NO!! :blink: I remember hearing somewhere it takes over a mile of gummed paper tape to paste a 12" shell with the WASP, seems a little nuts but I almost believe it.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:04 AM

HEY!! You are the guy that wants a uber brocade shell Posted Image

Imagine, building up 1/2" of pasted paper to contain the shell.... by hand. Posted Image


you build it I'll paste it..by hand.... with pasted kraft..the old fashion wayPosted Image
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:15 AM

you build it I'll paste it..by hand.... with pasted kraft..the old fashion wayPosted Image


Haha wheat paste that sumb*tch

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:36 PM

you build it I'll paste it..by hand.... with pasted kraft..the old fashion wayPosted Image


You are on! I actually was offered a 12" case by a pyro buddy a few months ago, he still has it. I want a time lapse of you pasting that sucker. And I wnat audio too, only of the cussing and spitting though. :lol:
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Posted 25 December 2010 - 05:28 PM

HELL NO!! Posted Image I remember hearing somewhere it takes over a mile of gummed paper tape to paste a 12" shell with the WASP, seems a little nuts but I almost believe it.


Not quite, 63,360 inchs in a mile, and a 12 inch takes about 12,000, so about 1/5 of a mile.

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 06:14 PM

Is that all?
I'll do that in a day with my wheat paste coated kraft Posted Image

And mine will look much nicer

Edited by Algenco, 25 December 2010 - 06:14 PM.

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 06:36 PM

wheat paste coated kraft Posted Image

And mine will look much nicer


I agree, I definitely appreciate hand pasting (although I'd probably be converted to a Wasp as soon as I had one). I have seen one and they are neat, and I've also seen examples of perfect bursts with large shells making them.

I would not do it in a day though! I'd do five layers per day until it's done, otherwise the inner layers would be driven in! I'll paste threes in a sitting, fours in two and sixes in three.

Pasted goods just look so nice!

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 06:39 PM

yep, I wouldn't rush it, I normally do 4-5 layers let it dry a bit, burnish,...
but then I have nothing but time, if I started early AM, hmmm
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Posted 26 December 2010 - 01:57 AM

12000 inches is only 1000 feet, which seems like a big underestimate. 17 layers is also pretty low for a 12" shell. It should probably be up around 30ish.
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