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#1 justanotherpyro

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 02:37 AM

Name of composition: Golden Tiger Tail
Composition Type: Charcoal streamer
Creator: Justanotherpyro
Color/Effect: Gold Tigertail
The Composition:
15 white mix( 57 KNO3, 27 Sulfur, 20 Meal powder : Submitted by al93535)
10 Charcoal ( pine )
7.5 Meal black powder
5% Dextrin
Any Precautions/Incompatabilities: Contains sulfur. Don't add Chlorate.
Precedure/Preparation: Screen chemicals well then thoroughly ball mill the contents. Wet and Cut. May possibly be rolled or pumped.

These stars are a nice new touch to the orange TT. They can sort of flash in and out from orange to gold. This was only noticeable on the video however.

http://www.apcforum....ldenTTshell.wmv
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 05:43 AM

Very nice but there Is a very small different between them to the orginal TT start.
I should mill it like TT stars?

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 07:26 AM

That's actually a really cool star! I love the dense orange tails. Thanks for that!

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 10:25 AM

I think it is brighter than a regular TT star. Very nice. There is one star that looks like reeper silver or something in the southeast corner of the star spread. What is it?
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 10:43 AM

Very nice stars, I think I may use these!!! Also a very nice shell, I liked it alot! Good work.
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:25 PM

I assume you also used dextrin to make these stars?
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:49 PM

Thanks for the comments.

Yes use dextrin to bind. Regular 5%.
Yes mill it like regular TT.
I tossed 2 of po's white flitter ones in there for a twist, but my dumbass friend didn't do a good job of capturing the shell.
Special thanks to Al93535 for the white mix. Its what makes the bright gold work.
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 03:55 PM

How is the burn time compared to a TT star? Since the tails are so thick and the stars go out so fast, I am thinking faster... They sure look good though!
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 06:11 PM

I'm trying to get a decent 2" shell tutorial up, so when/if that happens I will take a picture of the star size and upload it here. My computer is taking a major shit on me right now, and I have no clue how to fix it.
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Posted 11 May 2006 - 07:33 PM

I'm just getting ready to make this star. I'm out of pine charcoal and there is a burning ban in my state right now so i am unable to make a batch. Would good ole hardwood work nice for this comp?

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Posted 11 May 2006 - 08:55 PM

I have made TT stars with Willow charcoal. They say its not as good and probably isn't. The only think I noticed is that the sparks don't hang as long as they do with Pine. But it still works good enough to suit me.

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Posted 11 May 2006 - 10:00 PM

Pine works best for TT, but charcoal works period. I don't see it really adversely affecting the formula to much.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 12:28 AM

If you're looking for charcoal to make sparks, use good ol' Kingsford crushed up ~2-3mesh and then ball milled for ~1hr. The sticks, clay, and bear turds make excellent, long lasting tails. I kid you not.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:51 PM

Man, these stars make amazing tails, mine even crackled slightly. I used lumpwood charcoal from a petrol station. All that my dad had to say was "Bloody hell... BLOODY HELL!!!" :)

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 03:46 PM

That is the craziest obfuscation of a simple BP-type star that I've ever seen...beautiful results though :) I've done the math and worked out the percentages:

Potassium Nitrate: 49.26
Charcoal: 35.56
Sulfur: 15.18
Dextrin: +5
Total: 105

or (if the dextrin is added in)

Potassium Nitrate: 46.91
Charcoal: 33.87
Sulfur: 14.46
Dextrin: 4.76
Total: 100


Shimizu's formula for TT:

Potassium Nitrate: 44
Charcoal: 44
Sulfur: 6
Rice Starch: 6
Total: 100

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Posted 26 May 2006 - 08:36 PM

I have thought of this myself. Of how the formula is simple BP chems but the differences that they make in the preperation. My theory is that making the white mix first, and seperately is the absoloute key. It would make sense that ball milling all the components together would make these stars but I tried it, and to my surprise it didn't! It made a crappy BP.

If someone else wants to try just adding these all together and ball milling to try and get better results, please do. I'm very pleased to have just randomly stumbled onto these stars though. It makes you wonder what interesting effects could be achieved by just changing a few things with a strobe or glitter formula etc...
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Posted 09 June 2006 - 11:17 PM

I made a batch of this comp into 3/4" pumped comets. I weighed out the white mix components, then added the extra charcoal and meal to it and milled it all at once. The powder burns beautifully and brightly. I have not tested a comet as yet because they are not dry. I will launch one from a stargun next time I am at my site.
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Posted 11 June 2006 - 11:32 PM

I was thinking about this. I really see no reason for the star to behave differently reguardless if you make the white first or not. According to the proceedure you used, the mix is ball milled anyway.
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Posted 12 June 2006 - 12:19 AM

I dont mix the white separately and these stars work amazingly.

On another note, I just did another 3 starmines with these stars, they had everyone watching going "Ooooh, aaaah".

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 02:00 AM

What is the purpose of all this added meal business, all the chemicals are the same..can't the total amounts of kno3:C:S just be added together and milled?




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