Dragon99 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) Hello, Can anyone help me? What can i use instead of shellac? I don't have shellac. Edited April 27 by Dragon99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumber Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Red gum. Shellac and red gum are organic fuels and shellac is superior than red gum. See how much you need to substitute may he 1:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All10Fingers Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Pine resin. Everyone hates on it. It's a little smokey and leaves a little slag. But it still has always worked for me without compromising the colors or burn rate. Idk about the substitution ratios for your purposes. What I do is simply add about 75% of whatever your subbing for. Then little by little add small amounts til it looks about like what I'm trying to make. It's kinda sticky, but it's cheap and non toxic. Plus I've found it helps ignite stubborn stars. I think because it melts as it burns, it makes the fire stick to the star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinagg Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zumber said: Red gum. Shellac and red gum are organic fuels and shellac is superior than red gum. See how much you need to substitute may he 1:1. Plz Can u tell me lac resin(lac dana) is same like shellac?. Others is best Phenolic resin for fireworks, his trade name in India Edited April 27 by sachinagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumber Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 43 minutes ago, sachinagg said: Plz Can u tell me lac resin(lac dana) is same like shellac?. Others is best Phenolic resin for fireworks, his trade name in India Can you share its photo if possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinagg Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Zumber said: Can you share its photo if possible? Yes I have, but right now he is grind fome so u can judge it, it's a 3mm to 8mm bright orange to red granules, use in wood polish Edited April 27 by sachinagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumber Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 It is shellec but not superior than shellec flakes. This is second quality but not as good as flake shellac. It works too in stars but not as good as flake shellec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinagg Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 hours ago, sachinagg said: Plz Can u tell me lac resin(lac dana) is same like shellac?. Others is best Phenolic resin for fireworks, his trade name in India Phenolic resin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumber Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 12 hours ago, sachinagg said: Phenolic resin? Nope. Phenolic resin available here as a fine powder in our country and there are two versions, one is white & another is pale yellow with aromatic scent. Shellac with coarse grade is also known as shellac dana as you stated above but it in not as good as flake shellec. It might be for wood working , wood polishing and paint store grade. Flake shellac costs here 6 times more as of Aluminium powder. Around Indian rupee 3000/- per kg. Please see attatchment for flake shellac. Edited April 28 by Zumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinagg Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, Zumber said: Nope. Phenolic resin available here as a fine powder in our country and there are two versions, one is white & another is pale yellow with aromatic scent. Shellac with coarse grade is also known as shellac dana as you stated above but it in not as good as flake shellec. It might be for wood working , wood polishing and paint store grade. Flake shellac costs here 6 times more as of Aluminium powder. Around Indian rupee 3000/- per kg. Please see attatchment for flake shellac. Mr. Zumber shellec flake is easily available here when I purchased it's cost 350₹ kg, and right now cost is 1200 to 1500 ₹ kg. I want to know trade name of phenolic resin which one good for pyrotechnics or pyro works. And lac dana more costly than shellec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumber Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Besides pyrotechnics shellac is used for other applications too and accordingly it cost varies. Pure pyro grade shellac cost between 2500 to 3000 Rs per kg as of today. More trade names of phenolic resins are PF resin( phenol farmaldehyde) & Phenolic resin. Ask Jagannath Chemicals for more names. Edited April 29 by Zumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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