SALUTES/FLASH: One last opinion before this thread gets closed, please.
I do not concur. Yes, let's cover our butts legally, but: 1) the recipes for flash et al are EVERYWHERE online (here, too...obviously); 2) some kids are going to make "boom-boom", just like you did; and 3) we are in a unique position to educate these kids on how to mature and convert a whimsical love of "boom" into a safe and more thoughtful (can't think of a better word...) hobby of pyro, which can include "booms".
Perhaps I'm a dissenter, but I used to be one of those kids. Made NG at age 12. Learned quick about container material effects on shrapnel. Not cool. But we all survived. My mortar n pestle "gunpowder" was predictably horrible. Flash was a cinch. And a blast!!! And much more dangerous than I appreciated. Fun.
Seems we're weighing the legalities (maybe even possible future legal costs for "liability")? Only in America. Tough to imagine for this website unless somebody directly and explicitly encouraged/promoted/facilitated bad acts (my attorney). But the benefits of openly sharing complete education/experience/advice, and maybe teaching a kid that loves the "boom" (who didn't?) to appreciate the endless nuances of envisioning, creating, troubleshooting, and enjoying....learning how to sketch (or blow) absolutely beautiful patterns and holes in the sky. That's worthwhile.
Is it possible to discuss flash and it's many uses in legitimate pyro without discussing flash? Of course not. Is it possible to discuss flash and M-80s without correlating the two? Of course not. The kids can read it all--it is a matter of what they choose to interact with: 1) YouTube video describing flash manufacture and how great it is at blowing shit up (simple to find, formulations and sources included); or 2) Flash as a basis of doing even cooler/better pyro stuff with shell breaks and salutes etc !!!
Kids are always gonna mix oxys with metals. Period. And most won't know what they're really doing (some are kinda dumb, most kinda smart. some are smart and risk-takers). And they'll often use crappy fuses in their experiments...
We've got a responsibility to project our hobby/sport in a positive light, as a (cautiously) safe endeavor, undertaken by bright individuals who both understand the chemistry and appreciate the potential outcomes. And who stay within the legal boundaries. Jail ain't summer camp. And MANAGE RISKS. We also have a responsibility to be available to or to try to connect with younger folks (usually but not always boys) who like to blow shit up because it's fun (Hey! Maybe let's put a "warhead" on this Estes...."). They were the same as many of you were years ago (still?).
Primary take-home message, actually it's just an opinion...
Appreciating that we NEVER promote illegal activities, we can identify kids/newbies/individuals whose first post might be about firecracker/flash mixes and related queries. It both to our benefit and also I think, our absolute responsibility, to identify these people and engage them. The goal isn't injurious--the goal is simply to acknowledge their interests, and to hopefully ultimately expand those interests, so they eventually (safely) make a better rocket than you or me, or approach your shell skills when painting the sky! With all their fingers.
Let's try hard not to confuse the seriously curious and ambitious youngsters from the truly disturbed/worrisome youngsters. The info is already out there. The criminals/disturbed will locate that information and do their thing without our assistance. But yes, it's wise to tread gently with open eyes in discussions with Newbies of salutes, flash, etc. But let's not allow paranoia and (possibly overblown) worries of litigation damper our exchanges with Newbies on basic (legal) pyro topics. They already know how to make an M-80... Let's mentor them on developing their interestes, probably beyond what they first envisioned, legally and safely.
Edited by SharkWhisperer, 19 January 2020 - 12:48 AM.