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#1 Juanma9410

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Posted 01 September 2018 - 03:41 PM

Hi, a few days ago I saw this video and the truth those stars make me happy.
Could someone tell me his composition?
thank you very much


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Posted 01 September 2018 - 07:25 PM

I have a feeling the Veline Colors would yeild you sometihng similar to those colors.  More Mg/Al could be added to increase the brightness at the expense of washing the colors out.  

 

https://www.skylight...rs-color-system



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Posted 02 September 2018 - 01:50 PM

I used the veline colors in my "gumball" shells for the 4th of July and was very pleased with them.

There's several in there.
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#4 Juanma9410

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Posted 02 September 2018 - 07:16 PM

Thank you very much for answering both.
So, do you recommend using Veline?
The bad thing is that I have pvc and phenolic resin and their formulas have redgum and parlon. Could it be replaced 1: 1?

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Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:04 AM

The stars in the bright colour  vid are clearly brighter than most colour stars, they show up the smoke trail clearly. Perhaps they are a brighter, whiter comp than veline -usually done with more metal in the mix BUT that means a new, different mix needs testing first.

 

Beware burn rate changes when increasing the metal content and changing the binder.



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Posted 03 September 2018 - 07:22 AM

Personally I think the video itself is a little too washed out to get a good read on what's being used.  

 

It appears that the green (assumed) and yellow are indistiguishable from one another.  

 

Either that, or they used a whole lot of yellow.  


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Posted 03 September 2018 - 08:43 AM

Keep in mind that the red gum and parlon are serving as a fuel and chlorine donor in the veline comps. They can be used to bind but the original formula calls for dextrin as the binder. I believe subbing phenolic for red gum usually uses around 20% less phenolic. I'm not sure about pvc for parlon in terms of exchange rate. Both red gum and parlon are readily available online and aren't too expensive, especially if you factory in the time/expense of trying to retool the comp.

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Posted 03 September 2018 - 12:18 PM

The stars in my video above were all phenolic bound but I used Parlon. I've not tried subbing PVC before so I don't know how it would work.
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Posted 03 September 2018 - 01:52 PM

I thought the whole video looked great, and the gumballs had a great balance. Really want to play with Veline next year, got my plate full this year already.

 

Lately I'm finding a mix of Parlon and Saran to be good for colors that contain some Magnalium.  

 

I feel like high Mg/Al comps tolerate more Parlon a lot better, and in some cases I feel Saran would be a waste to use. 

 

I've always found straight Parlon to give my blues a violet tint, so I use only Saran for blues. 

 

No experience with PVC, but do plan on getting some this year.   



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 01:43 PM

To juanma: maybe adding a little titanium to veline would be worth a try?

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 04:45 PM

The stars in my video above were all phenolic bound but I used Parlon. I've not tried subbing PVC before so I don't know how it would work.

 

ball shells or canister pat







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