Merlin Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Can anyone recommend a supplier for rolls of virgin Kraft. I have found a couple but their minimum order is more than I need. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memo Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 ask dagabu he showed me the way to my last buy of 70# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendrite Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Although I haven't bought from them, I understand that Uline is a good source for virgin craft. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 Although I haven't bought from them, I understand that Uline is a good source for virgin craft. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) I have done business with Uline and they are good. However they only stock 30,40,50 lb virgin.According to the book you start with 70 lb Kraft on the former and after spiking over wrap with 30 lb.It is very hard to find true virgin. - most have recycled. The 70 lb virgin is what I need. I thought I got my original paper from Uline but they now have only recycled Kraft in the heavy weight.Thanks for your reply. Edited July 7, 2018 by Merlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarine Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I only use 40 lb paper now. You simply add turns of paper to the former until it adds up to the recommended weight. I have a roll of 70 lb I've not touched in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) I only use 40 lb paper now. You simply add turns of paper to the former until it adds up to the recommended weight. I have a roll of 70 lb I've not touched in a year.I wondered about that! I may well try it as 70lb is hard to get. I found one company selling it but minimum order is 3 very large rolls plus shipping.Good to hear from you! Hope your doing great! Edited July 7, 2018 by Merlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarine Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) Here's a quote from Ned Gorski on paper: "Good Ol' Fulcanelli addresses this with a simple, "Yes". If, say, 3 turns of 70# paper are specified for the case of a 3" shell, that is a total thickness of 210 pounds. If I wanted to use my good 30# paper instead, I'd divide that 210 pounds by 30, and get 7. So, I'd roll 7 layers of that 30 pound paper onto my case former, and get 210# total thickness, and be good to go." Edited July 7, 2018 by OldMarine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarine Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I only use my 70# paper for wrapping packages now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 I only use my 70# paper for wrapping packages now!Thanks OldMarine! You have solved my problem.I can easily get the lighter grades and it will be good not having multiple rolls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckufarley Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Just in case you still want some heavier paper. https://www.berlaupaperhouse.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon796 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I wouldn't trade one of my 70# rolls for 4 rolls of 30# or 40#. It makes a better more durable case, especially in the medium to larger sizes. Not to mention less work/paper to cut. If you order paper from Berlau house 36" or 48" is more useful than the 24" generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memo Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 got to agree with carbon 796 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarine Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 My 36" rolls of 40# need no extra cutting and will pleat over the end discs much better. Once the shell is properly loaded and spiked I can't see the difference in the break at all and I was using 70# before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon796 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 You must have missed the " medium to large " size shells. That I was specifically addressing OM. While small to insert sized shells may only need one strip or less, of 36" paper to roll a case from. If your orienting the grain correctly. Medium to larger sized shells, will require more strips of 30/40# paper to equal the equivalent 70# one wrap per nominal inch. If your building one or two single break shells, the difference may not seem like much. But, when your building multiple multi breaks, it adds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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