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#1 Merlin

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 08:16 PM

Can anyone recommend a supplier for rolls of virgin Kraft. I have found a couple but their minimum order is more than I need. Thanks

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 08:20 PM

ask dagabu he showed me the way to my last buy of 70# 



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 04:57 AM

Although I haven't bought from them, I understand that Uline is a good source for virgin craft. Hope that helps.



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:38 AM

Although I haven't bought from them, I understand that Uline is a good source for virgin craft. Hope that helps.



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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:48 AM

I have done business with Uline and they are good. However they only stock 30,40,50 lb virgin.
According to the book you start with 70 lb Kraft on the former and after spiking over wrap with 30 lb.
It is very hard to find true virgin. - most have recycled. The 70 lb virgin is what I need. I thought I got my original paper from Uline but they now have only recycled Kraft in the heavy weight.
Thanks for your reply.

Edited by Merlin, 07 July 2018 - 09:50 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:05 AM

I only use 40 lb paper now. You simply add turns of paper to the former until it adds up to the recommended weight. I have a roll of 70 lb I've not touched in a year.
Come on! Name one other hobby in which you cheer as your money and hard work go up in smoke!

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

I only use 40 lb paper now. You simply add turns of paper to the former until it adds up to the recommended weight. I have a roll of 70 lb I've not touched in a year.


I wondered about that! I may well try it as 70lb is hard to get. I found one company selling it but minimum order is 3 very large rolls plus shipping.
Good to hear from you! Hope your doing great!

Edited by Merlin, 07 July 2018 - 11:13 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

Here's a quote from Ned Gorski on paper:

"Good Ol' Fulcanelli addresses this with a simple, "Yes". If, say, 3 turns of 70# paper are specified for the case of a 3" shell, that is a total thickness of 210 pounds. If I wanted to use my good 30# paper instead, I'd divide that 210 pounds by 30, and get 7. So, I'd roll 7 layers of that 30 pound paper onto my case former, and get 210# total thickness, and be good to go."

Edited by OldMarine, 07 July 2018 - 11:17 AM.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:18 AM

I only use my 70# paper for wrapping packages now!
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Posted 07 July 2018 - 11:30 AM

I only use my 70# paper for wrapping packages now!


Thanks OldMarine! You have solved my problem.
I can easily get the lighter grades and it will be good not having multiple rolls!

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 08:02 AM

Just in case you still want some heavier paper.

https://www.berlaupa...ct_detail&p=441

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:05 AM

I wouldn't trade one of my 70# rolls for 4 rolls of 30# or 40#. It makes a better more durable case, especially in the medium to larger sizes. Not to mention less work/paper to cut.

If you order paper from Berlau house 36" or 48" is more useful than the 24" generally.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 07:55 AM

got to  agree with carbon 796



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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:12 PM

My 36" rolls of 40# need no extra cutting and will pleat over the end discs much better. Once the shell is properly loaded and spiked I can't see the difference in the break at all and I was using 70# before.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:37 PM

You must have missed the " medium to large " size shells. That I was specifically addressing OM. While small to insert sized shells may only need one strip or less, of 36" paper to roll a case from. If your orienting the grain correctly. Medium to larger sized shells, will require more strips of 30/40# paper to equal the equivalent 70# one wrap per nominal inch. If your building one or two single break shells, the difference may not seem like much. But, when your building multiple multi breaks, it adds up.




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