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#41 PeteyPyro

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:03 PM

Nice gold glitter. Thanks for the video.
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Posted 09 August 2017 - 02:16 PM

So, here is my attempt to copy Pirotex' great rocket. I got pretty close! I also used some of the composition to make comets, which I 'married' to some chlorate purple.
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=Iui7o5yhtHU
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=7z2caIKDmCM


OMG, these were a must! Thanks for sharing

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:57 AM

Advice me, please, several glitter compositions without Sb2S3 for the rolling stars. I'm going to make stars with Glitter to Red Peony.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:26 PM

D1 and N1 glitters are very good and have no antimony.

 

http://pyrodata.com/...ions/N1-Glitter

 

http://www.skylighte...tter-comets.asp


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:10 PM

Just wanted to stop in and say that I got this composition to work, and it's quite nice.  Thanks for sharing! 

 

Used 30-60 Mg/Al, Southern Pine, and 11 percent moisture for pumping (water with 10 percent methanol).  Mill everything (Minus the Mg/Al) for 20 minutes give or take, add moisture, thoroughly mix moisture in then screen it good, lastly add Mg/Al, mix it in and pump your stars etc.  

 

A couple of star tests up close, I noticed a nice orange charcoal stream with floating delayed Mg/Al flashes similar to FSFOY, only they were solid orange flashes with less hangtime/faster timing.  The Mg/Al flashes seem to happen on their own nice and clean and not so drossy, which I think can be attributed to high charcoal content and low sulfur.  The residual sodium really makes a nice orange flash on the Mg/Al flakes as well as color the charcoal a bit.  The coarseness of the Mg/Al is critical in this, I doubt anything bigger than 80 or 100 mesh would work as you would either get very quick flashes or none at all as the Mg/Al would get burned in the flame envelope before getting 'kicked out.'   I'm sure adding some Sodium Bicarbonate would increase the delay if one chose to do so.  

 

Quite interesting how long the delay is given there is no 'normal' delay agent (carbonates, oxalates) in it.  I've had simlar results subbing a mix of Strontium and Potassium Nitrate in this same formula a while ago, only the flashes were white and the charcoal burned slightly more red.  I do have video of that one, and will have have video of this one very soon.  I am going to make a batch with all strontium and, heck, maybe even a barium one just for comparison.  

 

I wonder if using strontium nitrate and strontium carbonate together would yeild red or pink flashes with a longer delay?  I don't have strontium carbonate but I do have the nitrate for inital testing.  Expecting to see redish/darker charcoal burn with pink flashes.   

 

I'll get a video up soon of some 1.75 comets, along with other stuff I've accumulated while I've been gone (on other threads of course).  Good to see this forum and some of the old faces, been a long while.  



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:48 PM

The flashes of strontium nitrate and strontium carbonate are at best slightly pink.  Part of it might be wishful thinking and a preconceived expectation.  There's a set of formulas called pampanino, pimpinella, pampanella, or something similar you might be interested in looking into.  Good red colors or glitters require chlorine, but chlorine has a nasty habit of killing glitters.  It's a tough nut to crack, but where there's a will, there's a way.

 

It's interesting you bring up firefly.  I've long thought that this formula is closer to a firefly composition than a true glitter.  They're related, but function on somewhat different mechanisms.  Doesn't make it any less breathtaking though.  


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Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:29 AM

I think you hit the nail on the head, this could be thought of as a "Fast Golden Firefly" or the likes.  Would adding a little Sodium Bicarb slow it down enough to make it a true long-hanging Orange firefly?  (on cocaine of course as it's a Mg/Al firefly and not Aluminum)  I'm very curious and think that it would be a great variation on firefly glitter.  

 

About the Strontium Nitrate test version:  After success with Winokur 1 and seeing noticable pink flashes, I'm hoping we can make a pink firelfy glitter (pink flaming sh*t falls on you) and control the delay with Strontium Carbonate while not losing the pink color.  The quesiton is will it burn the right temp to get delayed pink flashes, or will it just flash white?  

 

I have a feeling the barium nitrate version is just going to make white flashes and essentially be another workaround to a version of FSFOY.... which also brings up that we are using Dextrin and not Starpol and getting almost the same results, albeit a bit more is used.  I personally hate the fluffiness of Starpol and wonder if I'll continue using it for such comps? 

 

Milling up some Strontium today, will update when there's more results/video.   


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:01 AM

Try the Angy Pink Glitter (posted by me some tred back) and substitute the magnalium with 325 spherical alluminium. You will have a nice pinkish glitters

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 01:16 PM

Thanks for the headsup I'll look into that!

As for 'sperimentin with strontium: the full strontium version gave me big dross pucks.... which could have been the result of undried SrNO3 being it has sat for a year and probably absorbed water. I've since dried it but probably won't retest. A mix of SrNO3 and KNO3 similar to Winokur 1 or 2 is usable and have done it before woth success. Yeilds a short firefly tail of white flashes.

Mixtures heavy in charcoal already take long to dry, and strontium don't help things. Perhaps it can be phenolic bound and wet with alcohol?

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:46 PM

Sad for the busy 4th july...i Also had problem with nitrate, so i stepped to carbonate and sulfate ( i like sulfate more than carbonate) wich are less or none higroscopic. May be an idea bond with phenolic but i think Will kill glitter...i use not more the 10% of 80-20 water acetone mix bonding with dextrin.

Edited by kingkama, 06 July 2018 - 04:55 PM.

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