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#961 RiderX

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:10 PM

i ordered some supplies today most just 2x3 1/8th wall tubes for making canister shells going to try my hand at a dbl and tripple break canister shell , i think a tripple might be to large for my tubes though might need to just get some 2.5 tube and make my own at about 24-28 inches long 

 

unless u guys tell me a aprox 12 inch long shell is safe to fire out of an 18inch long tube 


Edited by RiderX, 17 October 2017 - 01:11 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:31 PM

I'm not quite sure how 3 shells that are 3" long would be 12" long overall, but you'll be fine.  I've fired shells that stuck out of the gun before.  You wont want to fire this from a warm gun, or reload it very much.  As you get to even larger caliber shells, you do have to start thinking about mortar material, strength, and construction method.  

 

Have you tried hand rolling casings?  Most cylindrical shells are made this way and is where more of the knowledge lies.  Hardwalled casings are more suited to commercial techniques developed for economic reasons such as stringless and flashbag broken shells.  The performance can still be good, but they're not as well known in the amateur world.  These techniques are also not quite as well suited to multi-break shells.  


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:31 PM

I'm not quite sure how 3 shells that are 3" long would be 12" long overall, but you'll be fine.  I've fired shells that stuck out of the gun before.  You wont want to fire this from a warm gun, or reload it very much.  As you get to even larger caliber shells, you do have to start thinking about mortar material, strength, and construction method.  

 

Have you tried hand rolling casings?  Most cylindrical shells are made this way and is where more of the knowledge lies.  Hardwalled casings are more suited to commercial techniques developed for economic reasons such as stringless and flashbag broken shells.  The performance can still be good, but they're not as well known in the amateur world.  These techniques are also not quite as well suited to multi-break shells.  

3 inch long shells x3 =9 inches + 1 inch spacers between shells =11 + lift charge sitting below it 

 

was going to make it like a peanut type shell instead of stackling them directly ontop of each other , just trying to figure out how to fuse the middle shell but i have a pretty good idea on how to do that 

 

i have rolled a few so far , ive had better luck using commercially available tubes 

 

 

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both of those are bp broken and comercial tubes


Edited by RiderX, 17 October 2017 - 04:39 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:07 PM

I could be wrong here Rider but I assumed Mumbles was reffering to rolled, spiked, pasted and layered cylinder shells.

But bravo, I'm surprized they turned out so well with hand rolled hard shell paper cases.

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:43 PM

I could be wrong here Rider but I assumed Mumbles was reffering to rolled, spiked, pasted and layered cylinder shells.

But bravo, I'm surprized they turned out so well with hand rolled hard shell paper cases.

thanks those 2 vids werent hand rolled tubes though , those were tubes i had bought, the new tubes i just bought should be alot better then the ones i used in those 2 vids 

lmao i tried to send that first one into low earth orbit 

 

i tried a rolled spiked pasted shell it sucked 


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:48 PM

ive also learned u cant boost the shell when using these tubes 

 

if nothing else i can make awesome tails 


Edited by RiderX, 17 October 2017 - 07:49 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 08:36 PM

Are you using cardboard tubes for cylinder casings? I think if you roll them from paper like Fulcanelli specifies you'll get better breaks.


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:48 PM

Are you using cardboard tubes for cylinder casings? I think if you roll them from paper like Fulcanelli specifies you'll get better breaks.

spiral wound tubes , they work alot better then the parallel wound ones atleast that i have tried  , im getting decent breaks with them so im going to keep playing with them for a lil bit 

 

rolling my own is to much of a pain in the butt right now 


Edited by RiderX, 17 October 2017 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 04:52 PM

been moving crap around all day making myself a dedicated workspace , and putting up shelving for supplies 

im sure ill pay for it later though my shoulder is already killing me as it is 



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Posted Yesterday, 04:56 PM

Rider,

'Organization' of your supplies is the BEST thing you can do.  Presently, due to business (and now weather) considerations, all of my chemicals are back in boxes, in a store-room.  I cannot WAIT to get back to the pyro shop with the purpose of re-organizing them as I had before all this crap started.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 05:26 PM

I'm constantly reorganizing the deck chairs on my little Titanic shop. Dolly Parton once quipped about fitting her bosom into that sequined dress as cramming 50lbs of mud in a 10lb sack. That fits my little shed to a tee! 

Here's just one wall:

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#972 RiderX

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Posted Yesterday, 06:18 PM

I'm constantly reorganizing the deck chairs on my little Titanic shop. Dolly Parton once quipped about fitting her bosom into that sequined dress as cramming 50lbs of mud in a 10lb sack. That fits my little shed to a tee! 

Here's just one wall:

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i i have 3,000 ft of work space on the farm+ and underground shipping container for storage  , if my work space ever gets to small im in trouble


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Posted Yesterday, 06:29 PM

Mine's 12 x 12.


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Posted Yesterday, 07:03 PM

Mine's 80x100, but not all enclosed (about 1200 sq. ft., so far).  I'm walling-off another 560 sq.ft. this next month (after 4F).

 

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Posted Yesterday, 09:22 PM

Mine's 12 x 12.

ouch thats gota be rough 



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Posted Today, 01:06 AM

well i cant sleep cause of my shoulder so watched a few vids and learned a new way to paste my ball shells deff much faster then individuual strips top to bottom

 

now i just need to make a tape dispenser and something to wet the gum tape and ill be set 






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