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#1 pyroman2498

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:15 PM

https://www.regulati...-2006-0034-0014

This is something that could screw over allot of businesses !!


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:20 PM

here is the petition

 https://petitions.wh...r-14g-fireworks


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 06:36 PM

CPSC...anti-darwin commission.  Assuring the gene pool stays polluted for generations to come!

 

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 12:41 PM

Wow. USA must be a wonderful place to be. You can be so ignorant and stupid, that you think it's the metal content of a pyro composition that gets people hurt, and not just damn stupidity, and explosive force, and STILL advance to the point where you can influence politics...

I could get rich in the USA, for sure. I actually have half a brain that is working, and don't try to jam forks in my eyes when i'm eating. How about we find the moron behind this thing, and have him swap life with me?

 

And just for the anger that is sure to come... No, not every US citizen is daft beyond words. Of course not.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:29 PM

ahh we take the bad with the good here. problem is we let the morons make too many decisions...but at least we can still buy perchlorate here!



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:33 PM

I'm not entirely 'with' this movement to claim that all consumer fireworks will be 'condemned' by this latest action.

 

I DO have a lot of problems with how CPSC creeps into our lives, bit-by-bit.  But this last is - I think - without too much merit.  Very few Chinese consumer fireworks shells are broken with flash, anymore.  Most use something akin to whistle-mix, and that is NOT affected by this latest action.

 

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 03:41 PM

I agree with Lloyd, but I seem to be in the minority with people. I think this proposal is overreaching, but it is far from the end of the world when it comes to consumer product. To me, the target is clearly overloaded "consumer" cakes and shells.
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:54 PM

In my opinion the ban on flash powder is silly and needlessly limits the performance of consumer fireworks. One must really question the sequence of choices and events that lead to a shell exploding with sufficient proximity for its burst charge to cause bodily harm. 



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 04:53 AM

ahh we take the bad with the good here. problem is we let the morons make too many decisions...but at least we can still buy perchlorate here!

 

YOu are right. Stupidity seams global now that i think of it.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:06 AM

In my opinion the ban on flash powder is silly and needlessly limits the performance of consumer fireworks. One must really question the sequence of choices and events that lead to a shell exploding with sufficient proximity for its burst charge to cause bodily harm. 

 

Well, people remove the burst charge, light the time fuse, and cook off the shells by hand... Don't ask how I know that!

 

It's kinda a popular grenade simulator in Airsoft.


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:44 AM

. . . I DO have a lot of problems with how CPSC creeps into our lives, bit-by-bit . . .

 

Yes Lloyd, those sort of 'freedoms' have been slowly eroding, bit-by-bit here in Oz for many years. Now becoming even more stringent, under the guise of anti-terror laws to make us all safe.

 

Maybe someone should get Trump on the phone. Somehow I don't reckon that he would be a big fan of the CPSC, and as we've seen, he certainly enjoys creating fireworks!


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:11 AM

This is how is starts. First, they come for overloaded cakes, then your chems. and lastly, you do a 10 year/270 page long chlorate/perc cell thread, because you woke up in the EU nanny state, and can't get $#T. IMO. They tried to get my guns, but I backed up my NRA 'to the hilt'. Dues paid up. Forum donation made. Petition signed. 'Nuff said.
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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:19 AM

Unfortunately, I think Pandora's can of hornets has already been opened. :o


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 07:35 AM

It's about more government control.


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:29 AM

It's about more government control.

 

Indeed.

 

Please forgive me for sticking my nose into the American Constitution, and I apologize if I offend anyone.

 

From what I gather, the second amendment includes the "right to bear arms" or something to that effect. The older I get, I realize that it makes sense. As in, the people should be able to have the tools and weapons to overthrow a corrupt and non-democratic, dictatorial Government.

 

The "Founding Fathers" of the American constitution could not have envisaged the cyber war that we are now living through. If they could, then I suggest that their thoughts and ideas would be the same, in that, "We, the people", should also have those same tools, to defend our freedom.

 

What Islamic extremists do now, delivers the same into the hands of those that wish to restrict our knowledge and restrict our freedom - it does seem to be working, that's why we see these restrictions in western democratic societies.

 

I'll defend freedom of thought, freedom of scientific pursuit, freedom of religion, or freedom from it, until the end.

 

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:09 PM

While I agree that most consumer shells are no longer flash broken, the real issue is that the CPSC has already stated that only 16% of all the products they sampled passed their new test.  So, 84% failed.  It isn't just flash that is being detected.  And, if 84% of the products available go away, that is an end-of-the-world scenario. 

 

This cherry picking of what is good and what is bad by our government is itself just wrong.  The products aren't injuring people so much as people are injuring themselves and other people by their stupid actions.  The CPSC's own database point to very, very many other activities and products that injure more people than fireworks.  We had a neighborhood kid end up in the hospital after his family 4th celebration not because of the fireworks being shot, but because of the bon fire they had going.   The week of the 4th, injuries and fires from other sources outnumber those caused by fireworks.   According to NFPA, nearly 9000 fires a year are caused by grills with up to 10 deaths a year caused by grills.  So, is the CPSC going to ban grills?



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Posted 20 July 2017 - 04:41 PM

Stupid is F*** up everybody. Dam Stix you sound like a true American. I may be thinking about another country, but didnt Hitler convince Australia that they didnt need firearms anymore, then when he got all of the weapons, he took control of the country and did just the opposite of what he said he would do?


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 04:55 PM

Um, Mike?

 

I'm pretty-sure Hitler never invaded Australia!  <huh?  Where the hell did THAT come from?>

 

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:09 PM

I think he means Austria.


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 01:27 AM

Does Godwin's law apply to this forum? :-)


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